Author S.A. Michelle #interview

Please give a warm welcome to author S.A. Michelle

Have you always wanted to become an author?

Yes, I have enjoyed writing since I was a child. Math and English were my favorite subjects in school. Although I just finished college recently and received a degree in culinary arts, which I use in my writing. Vixen, my main character, is a chef by day.

What was your inspiration for your current series?

My current series will be a duet. I have been dreaming about Vixen for a while now and I finally found the courage to write her story. It has a lot of traumas that some will find triggering. 

What are you working on now?

I am currently trying to finish my Vigilante Vixen duet, and then I have a paranormal reverse harem that I am researching for. It’s about a voodoo princess from New Orleans. 

Do you have any quirks while working?

I can’t listen to music while I am writing. I found that if I do, I will write the words of the song into my story randomly. Which is making it difficult to make a Spotify playlist for the book.

What are your hopes for the future?

I hope to finish my current duet, start my next series, and continue to write. I hope everyone enjoys the books as much as I enjoy writing them.

Do you have any advice for new authors about the publishing world?

Take any and all advice you get and listen to it. I have met a bunch of amazing Indie authors and they are all amazing and so supportive. I appreciate all the advice and any help, whether or not I succeed. 

Do you have anything to say to your followers?

I love all of my followers. I can’t thank them enough for supporting me on my journey. I love you all and thank you. I hope I make you proud

Author Eileen Troemel #interview

Please give a warm welcome to author Eileen Troemel

Tell us a bit about yourself…

Eileen Troemel – I’m an author… I’d rather talk about my characters than myself.  I write in a variety of genres.  I like the different challenges of different formats.  I’ve got scifi romance, fantasy romance, contemporary romance, paranormal romance… I like romance.  Give me the magic of falling in love and I’m happy.  I also produce crochet patterns, a self help book and poetry. I grew up on a farm which makes me independent and determined.  I’ve been married to my wonderful husband for forty years.  We have three wonderful adult daughters.  

I write under two more names as well. 

RJ Stone – writes children’s books.  When I started writing, I wanted to start with children’s books.  So many ideas for them but my stumbling block – I’m a horrible artist.  But I returned to this and have two items out and will have more soon. 

Ava M Taylor – write erotica.  I’ve written in many of the sub-genres from contemporary to scifi and fantasy.  I like the sexy stories and find it challenging to write.  In fact, I started writing erotica because I needed a break from a current work in progress.  My head needed to think on a plot point in one of my other stories and so I wrote a rather explicit sex scene.  From there it grew into a story. 

Have you always wanted to become an author?

In third grade our teacher assigned us to write a short story.  I wrote something silly but it was the first time I realized you could make up stories.  From there, I knew I wanted writing to be part of what I did.  I’ve done a lot of business writing in my life but I took up writing again in my late thirties and found myself again.

What was your inspiration for your current book/series?

Current – well okay so I write in multiple books at a time so it’s hard for me to limit this to one.


Celtan Dilemma – out next year – this all started with a conversation about some current event (no idea which one) and the person was stuck between a rock and a hard place.  My female main character was given an order (in the military) and if she carried it out, she would become a war criminal.  If she didn’t carry it out, she was a traitor.  So she had to choose.  This is a science fiction space war story. 

The Moon Crossing – due out in November – is a co-write with Jan Selbourne.  She’s a lovely author from Australia.  I read her book Perilous Love.  She kept me on the edge of my seat.  We talked and I thoroughly enjoy talking to her. She writes historical fiction and she said she had no idea how to write in scifi.  So we landed on an alternate history of the moon landing.  We talked through a good portion of the plot – which is pretty amazing because we are both people who write off the cuff.  Once we got started it took off and the ideas and collaboration was wonder.  The premise is during the moon landing the astronauts found something that advanced our society technologically.  But now in 2030, scientists were disappearing.  Our two main characters are looking for their missing family members and end up in a pile of intrigue and mystery as they track down their family.  

On the Line – due out in January – is a contemporary romance in the K Bromberg world of Everyday Heroes.  Allison is a 911 operator and Chandler is a computer programmer.  His parents called 911 and were so grateful for the help, they wanted to meet the operator who helped them.  Chandler works with the cybercrimes division so he got an intro to Allison.  From the moment he met her, he wanted to spend more time with her.  Allison is recovering from a bad marriage.  She wants to do her job and have a quiet life.  She’s older than him and has two adult daughters.  She was injured in a car accident, leaving her with some mobility issues.  He doesn’t care about that.

Ava M Taylor just published Captain’s Companion.  This is book two in the Sexy Sinivite series.  Prospecting is the first book.  Cade is tired of sex bots.  He’s off prospecting in space and he wants a real woman to go with him to all the remote locations while he works.  Sheridan needs money to help her family so she hires out essentially as a sex toy.  Cade is part Sinivite and well they have a way with their women.  In Captain’s Companion, Ulrik is a captain of a ship and has met his mate – sort of.  He’s required to have a companion.  He doesn’t really want one but it’s required.  So when he looks through those available, he find Gwynn.  He knows.  When he finally meets her, he knows as well. He’s mostly Sinivite so his pheromones go into hyperdrive with his mate.  These are two stand alone books but share a theme and world. 

RJ Stone wrote a short story for the anthology To the Moon and Back.  Princess on the Run is a short story geared toward 8 to 10 year olds.  She’s run away to visit her dragon friend Nuria.  But Nuria reminds her of what happens when a princess visits a dragon… trouble. 

What are you working on now?

I’m working on a scifi romance which is a little darker than I normally go.  The working title is Escape the Gray.  These men were dumped on a planet as prisoners of war and struggle to survive.  Then a ship of their enemy crashes and they discover a woman.  It’s an RH scifi romance.   

I’ve also got about four other projects I’m working on.  I move back and forth among the projects until one of them takes off.  Then I just write.

Under Ava M Taylor I’m working on a sea monster story.  I bought a cover that inspired me and I’ve been building the story.  The title will be Sacrificed to the Sea Monster.  There’s a bit of adventure, humor, and a lot of sexy time. 

Under RJ Stone, I’m working on Dragon of Frendur 2 – lots of ideas for this one but nothing solid for a plot. 

Do you have any quirks while working?

I don’t know about quirks.  I am usually in my recliner with only one light on and classical music playing.  If the words are flowing, I can write as much as 10 to 15,000 words. Most often I write anywhere from 500 to 5000 words.  Even though I work in Word on my computer, I use my phone to research topics that come up while I’m writing. 

What are your hopes for the future?

I hope my stories will bring readers enjoyment and escape from their world.  If they find a lesson in there – great.  I hope I continue to produce stories which people find engaging, sexy, and fun.  

Do you have any advice for new authors about the publishing world?

Listen to those who are better at writing than you are but always make your own choices and decisions about your writing.  Write often.  The more you write, the better you’ll get.  But don’t just drop words on a page.  When you edit, pay attention.  What words are you overusing?  What phrases are you repeating? Analyze your work so you become a better author. Know you’re not done once it’s published. From there you have to promote and market your work.

Do you have anything to say to your followers?

Thank you.  Thank you for picking up my books and reading them. Thank you for connecting with me.  You’re key to my story telling process. 

Author Cerise Rose #interview

Please give a warm welcome to author Cerise Rose

Tell us a bit about yourself…

I’ve been writing since I was a child but did not become a published author until 2019 under a different pen name. When I am not writing I work as a Fraud Analyst in the gaming industry, which does not get incorporated into my writing. LOL

Have you always wanted to become an author?

I have always wanted to be an author and when I finally published my first book, it was one of my dreams that came true.

What was your inspiration for your current book/series?

I have all kinds of inspiration whether it’s from different types of movies or music. I don’t write one type of PNR book – I want to dabble in a variety, though vampire is my favorite.

What are you working on now?

Currently, I am working on a dark contemporary called N.S.F.W. which can mean Not Safe For Work or Not Safe From Willa. It is essentially a temp with a huge chip on her shoulder centered on men in the corporate world who have overstepped their boundaries.

Do you have any quirks while working?

Not really that I can think of.

What are your hopes for the future?

I am essentially starting over after striking my established author name. However, my hopes is to finally see that coveted orange banner on my book or books.

Do you have any advice for new authors about the publishing world?

Never give up your dream. Even if things get rough and you need to make changes in your career, never stop, always keep going. There are so many days I want to quit, but then I remember the reason I write in the first place.

Do you have anything to say to your followers?

I have my Rose Buds and my followers who have been with me through everything and owe them a debt of gratitude. To my new followers, I can’t thank you enough in advance for helping me see my book dreams come true.

Author Eva Ashwood #interview

Please give a warm welcome to author Eva Ashwood

Tell us a bit about yourself…

Eva Ashwood has been a reader her whole life and a writer for several years. She loves telling stories of alpha males and the fierce women who bring them to their knees.

She’s a sucker for reverse harem, bully romance, enemies to lovers, heroes who redeem themselves, and all the drama and passion of new adult love.

Have you always wanted to become an author?

No, but I’ve always been a huuuge reader! For as long as I can remember, I’ve been a voracious reader, and the moment I discovered romance novels, it was all over, lol. I got hooked and never looked back. The first book I ever wrote was because I was dying to read a certain trope in a book and I couldn’t find it, so I decided I would write it myself. And the rest is history!

What was your inspiration for your current book/series?

My current series is called Dirty Broken Savages, and the inspiration for that one sort of hit me upside the head, lol. The blurb for the first book just popped into my head one day, and I had to scramble to find a pen to write it down as fast as I could. Then I knew I had to write the book, since the characters were screaming at me to tell their story.

What are you working on now?

I’m working on Reign of Wrath, the third book in the Dirty Broken Savages series. There will be four books total in the series, so up next will be the final book. And then I’ll be starting a brand new series! I don’t want to say too much about that one yet, but it will be a dark contemporary romance.

Do you have any quirks while working?

I often speak the dialogue out loud as I type, to make sure it sounds real and flows right, and I also make faces as I write – happy or sad or whatever the characters are feeling. So basically, I look like a crazy person, lol! My husband has learned to just ignore me while I’m in the middle of a writing session.

What are your hopes for the future?

To keep writing for as long as I can. It’s all I can imagine myself doing now, and I have sooo many more stories in my head that I want to tell. I hope to write another paranormal series at some point, but right now, my muse is pulling me strongly in the direction of contemporary romance. So that’s where I’ll be for a while!

Do you have any advice for new authors about the publishing world?

Take the leap! It’s soooo scary at first, but if I can do it, you can too! Write the story that’s been in your heart and in your head, the one you’ve always wanted to read that hasn’t been written yet.

Do you have anything to say to your followers?

Thank you!!! I get insanely nervous with every book I release, and it’s honestly the messages and comments and reviews from readers that keep me going. Thank you for taking a chance on my work, and for loving the damaged, broken characters my mind comes up with!

Author Stacy-Deanne #interview

Please give a warm welcome to author Stacy-Deanne

Tell us a bit about yourself…

Well, I was born and raised in Houston, Texas. I have always had a great imagination, which fuels my love of writing. I am also an introvert, so I live in my head, which is also why I love writing so much. I’m a simple person and a homebody, so I just love writing and when I’m not doing that I’m watching TV, surfing the net, or researching.
I grew up loving mysteries and suspense. Hitchcock and Edgar Allan Poe are my biggest creative idols. I write interracial books (black women and white men coupling) among different genres. I write romance, romantic suspense, thrillers, women’s fiction, historical, erotica, erotic romance, and paranormal (just starting with this one). I also write books of all lengths, but mainly novellas and shorts.
I am a USA Today Featured Author and have been interviewed by USA Today many times as well as have had several books reviewed by them. They also made my book The Seventh District a Recommended Read. I am also the nominee of two African-American Literary Awards.

Have you always wanted to be an author?

No. I never thought about writing professionally until I was 19 and that’s when I started. I always enjoyed reading and always had a talent for writing as a child, but I never thought of it as an avenue to make money. Back then, I was just happy to write and wasn’t thinking about sharing my work. Then, when I turned 19, the dream of being an author hit me and I got into it. I started back in 1998 and back then you didn’t have the options you have now. You had to be trade published or you’d have to sell books out of the trunk of your cars. There was a huge stigma against self-publishing, so it wasn’t a valid way to be published then. Also, there wasn’t even KDP, so you didn’t have the option to publish through Amazon and ebooks hadn’t become popular yet. You had to be with a publisher and have books in stores to get anywhere. So after years of struggling to be noticed, I finally got a two-book deal from Simon and Schuster in 2007 and 2008. Unfortunately, right before the first book was released, my mother passed away. So needless to say, the experience of first being published wasn’t the happy time I thought it would be.

What was your inspiration for your current book or series?

Me. LOL! I just write the stories I want to write and whatever idea that pops into my head. I get more ideas from movies and current events than anything, but most times the idea just comes from me. I’ve always had a powerful imagination. I also get ideas while exercising and riding in a car, too.

What are you working on now?

Working on billionaire romantic thriller serial. As well as reworking some previously published standalones I’d published under a now defunct pen name.

Do you have quirks while working?

Nah. For me, I don’t mess around. I just turn the TV on mute and get to writing. I don’t do any special rituals outside of outlining my work. I just get out the laptop and get rolling and try to be as productive as possible for each session.

What are your hopes for the future?

Even though I’ve been in this game, for a long time, I just want to keep growing. Growth is constant. I also just want to be healthy and to remain in a position where I can keep writing and meeting my creative and financial needs.

Do you have any advice for new authors about the publishing world?

The most important is to research. Don’t expect anyone to spoon feed you every bit of advice. You’re gonna have to take the initiative yourself. Course, it’s fine to ask for help, but you also need patience and to be realistic about expectations. This is not something to get into if you expect to be rich or leave your day job. Only a tiny percentage of authors are living off their book income. Most are not. So make sure you know what the real publishing life is like and don’t fall for the facade you see on TV. Being a writer in real life is nothing like it looks on TV. It’s hard work and I suggest not even trying unless you love writing. If you don’t love it to your core, then you won’t last.

Do you have anything to say to your followers?

Of course! Thanks so much for always buying my work and supporting. I appreciate all the love and you can be sure that I’ll never cheat you and with every book I give 100% because I know you guys deserve nothing less! I always got something new for you, so continue to keep up with me!

Author Traci Lovelot #interview

Please give a warm welcome to author Traci Lovelot

Tell us a bit about yourself…

Traci Lovelot is my pen name, and I’m the author of Our Fae Queen, a reverse harem series in a fantasy world that overlaps our own. I’m addicted to books without love triangles, so I write romance where our leading lady lives happily ever after with ALL the guys. 🥰 Because why choose? I prefer reading and writing paranormal romance and fantasy romance, but I wouldn’t rule out writing a scifi RH or contemporary RH someday…

Have you always wanted to become an author?

Pretty much! I wrote my first book when I was ten years old. My mother frequently took me on library trips, where I would devour books that were way too old for me. Reading was my favorite pastime, so much so that I would get in trouble for reading during classes. I dreamed of becoming an author some day, and now I’m busy making my inner child’s dreams come true.

What was your inspiration for your current book/series?

With Our Fae Queen, I wanted to write about a character who didn’t just have things handed to her, but had to grow into her destiny. I also wanted to include some myths from around the world, because I find it fascinating how similar myths pop up across the world in cultures that hadn’t even discovered each other yet. Stories tap into something primal within us, and I love being a part of that shared world with my readers.

What are you working on now?

What am I NOT working on? Haha. Right now I’m busy killing off typos in Our Fae Queen Book 4 so I can send it off to my advance review team (which you can join!), I’m revising Book 5 with feedback from my editor, and I’m dreaming of a new series… PNR that’s a second-chance romance combined with enemies to lovers, and, of course, reverse harem. I’m SUPER excited about it, but I know it’ll take me some time to develop.

Do you have any quirks while working?

I prefer dead silence when writing, but if not… I listen to dub-step and electronica to get me pumped.

What are your hopes for the future?

I dream of traveling again… I gain inspiration from the world around me, and unfortunately, lately I’ve mostly confined myself at home. I hope we can all work together to put an end to this pandemic so we can all enjoy being with one another again!

Do you have any advice for new authors about the publishing world?

Join 20Booksto50k and follow all the brilliant advice in the guides on their Facebook group. If you’re a romance writer, I would also recommend reading Romancing the Beat by Gwen Hayes, as well as Romance Your Brand by Zoe York. If you read The Lost Queen, you’ll see I put a ton of resources in my Acknowledgments, those whose wisdom helped me along my path.

Do you have anything to say to your followers?

Thanks for joining me so early in my author journey! I’m looking forward to bringing you many more fun worlds to enjoy and characters to meet. All of you who have left me reviews and have believed in me so far really do keep me encouraged to continue!

LIVE: Black Wedding by Emma Luna #amreading

Title: Black Wedding Series: A Beautifully Brutal Book Author: Emma Luna Genre: Dark Mafia Romance Release Date: September 9, 2021 Cover Design: Dazed Designs

If you thought the red wedding was bad, wait until you see the black wedding!
My name is Liam Doughty and I’m a hit man.
All I wanted was to get what I was owed. I carried out the hit as I was hired to do by Irish Mob boss, Vernon O’Keenan. It’s not my fault they found out too late that they had the wrong man. All I wanted was my money. I thought I could kidnap the Mafia Princess Brianna O’Keenan and get the ransom money. What I got was so much more!
Ruthless, feisty, and incredibly sexy, she’s far from the timid daddy’s girl I was expecting. Bree has her own agenda. She wants to dominate in a world ruled by men. I have no doubt she can do it, but she will need my help. Her family rules state only males can run the business. So, Bree proposes we get married. She gets to rule, and I get more money than I ever dreamed of.
Two dark, evil worlds collide when we agree to our black wedding. We will fight each others enemies and come out on top. But what happens if we develop real feelings and we realise our wedding wasn’t all that black?
Author WarningBlack Wedding is a dark mafia, kidnapping romance. Due to darker themes it is recommended for 18+ readers. This book features dark themes which may be a trigger for some people. If you would like more detail then please email Please note this book is set in the UK, and Emma is a British author, therefore the book features British spellings and phrases. Please keep this in mind.

“Oh, Princess, not only can I say it, I can do it too. I was just trying to be polite with you, but I won’t hold back if you want the real me. So yes, what I’m asking is if the sack of shits you dated before could give you earth-shattering, toe-curling orgasms, whether they had finished first or not.” His voice has taken on a new gravely tone that sounds almost raspy. As he speaks, he practically growls. The sound of him talking about the mind-blowing orgasms he claims he can give has my ovaries clenching and my pussy starting to feel wet.

“Never…I’ve never had an orgasm given to me by someone else,” I whisper, hoping the ground will swallow me up. Instead, my admission rings through the air as though I shouted it.

“Fuck, you really have dated a lot of twatwaffles. I have no idea what will happen between us or if we will ever progress to a sexual relationship in our marriage, but I can fucking guarantee that you will come every time with me. I would make sure my tongue craves your taste, my fingers desperate to feel your pussy hungrily grip them for more, and my cock owning all your holes. I would make sure I learnt to play your body like a complex instrument, and only I know how to make you sing. You can rule in public, but I am always in charge when it comes to sex, and whether you want to or not, your body would bend to my will. I would own you.” The dirtiness of his words, the hard, sensual look on his face, and the short, sharp breathy moans he releases as he speaks tip me over the edge.

𝘌𝘮𝘮𝘢 𝘓𝘶𝘯𝘢 2021


Emma Luna is an author and editor who lives in Cambridgeshire, UK, despite her heart still very much being Northern. She lives surrounded by her crazy family; her Mum, who is her best friend and biggest fan; her Dad who helps her remember to always laugh; her Grandparents and Brother who can never read what she writes and her long suffering man-child Boyfriend who she couldn’t live without (but don’t tell him that!).

In her spare time she likes to create new worlds and tell the stories of the characters that are constantly shouting in her head. She also loves falling into the worlds created by other authors and escaping for a while through reading.

When she’s not adulting or chasing her writing dream she loves dog-napping her Mums shih-tzu Hector, chilling curled up on the sofa with her Boyfriend binge watching the latest series or movie, drinking too much diet coke (it’s her drug of choice), buying too many novelty notebooks, and completing adult colouring books as a form of relaxation. Oh and she is a massive hardcore Harry Potter geek. Ravenclaw for life!

Thank you for taking a chance on a newbie author – hope you enjoy and come back for more!


Preorder Type 2 by Ben Ditmars #amreading

Type 2 by Ben Ditmars

Type 2 is a journey from being diagnosed to living each day with diabetes. If you feel shocked, if you feel angry or need healing for yourself (or loved one) there is a poem within these pages.


“The evolution of a poet is seldom pretty. We pull from lifewhat is frightening, terrifying, painful and sad, doing our best to rewrite our tragedies so perhaps others will catch the metaphor and learn from ourmistakes, with never once breathing the words, “I told you so”, out loud.
In Type-2, poet Ben Ditmars evolves. And though the words he writes are beautiful, this is not a pretty maturing.  It is gripping to watch a young man come face to face with his mortality. It is more than impactful to have his words lead you to questioning your own.  I have watched family member after family member struggle with adult-onset diabetes. I’ve had friends carry snacks just in case and watched them jab at their fingers. I have never had anyone make me really think about this kind of life, let alone my chances of ending up living it, the way this collection of poems has.”

– Natasha Head, author of Nothing Left to Lose and Pulse

Ben Ditmars Interview

Author Alice Ivinya #interview

Please give a warm welcome to author Alice Ivinya

Tell us a bit about yourself…

I live in wet and soggy Bristol, UK, with my husband, toddler and dog (oh and an immortal goldfish).

I have loved fantasy all my life. My favourite authors are Brandon Sanderson, Holly Black, Amy Harmon and Robert Jordan.

When I’m not off gallivanting in other worlds, you can normally find me climbing trees with my young son, working as a small animal vet for a charity that treats the pets of people who struggle to make ends meet, hanging out with my church family, or walking the best dog in the world. (And as a vet I feel qualified to say that!)

Have you always wanted to become an author?

I have written stories for as long as I can remember. My first book series was about a group of kids who ran away from home and became rulers of all the sharks in the sea. Worryingly they all got married at the age of 12-14 but that was old to my 8 year old self! 

I wrote my first full length novel at 11. It was about a magician’s apprentice who was bad at magic. 

Throughout my teenage years I wrote epic fantasy after epic fantasy that my poor parents had to read, even when they went over 200,000 words! As a child I was badly dyslexic and struggled with sentence structure and spelling to the extent that many of my early stories were illegible until I typed them up. It took me much longer than all the other children in my class to both write and type, but I just loved to write and have never been able to stop telling stories. Slowly, wth the support of my parents and teachers, I developed techniques to get around my dyslexia and now it never holds me back.

I now have ten published full length books and seven short stories.

What was your inspiration for your current book/series?

My current series starts with Feathers of Snow and is inspired by the German fairytale, The Goose Girl. I always loved how the original tale coupled gentleness and beauty with brutality and ruthlessness. To me, it is a very powerful tale of the power of goodness and perseverance. Though my tale flips the characters on their heads!

What are you working on now?

I am currently putting the final touches on Feathers of Blood which is the sequel to Feathers of Snow. This book has a lot more action and angst and has been great fun to write!

Do you have any quirks while working?

I often feel the need to pull the expressions my characters are making as I write them to try to work out how to describe them. I must look very strange, so it’s probably a good thing I don’t write in public!

What are your hopes for the future?

I hope to keep on doing what I love, which is being a mummy, writing and saving animals as a vet! It would be my dream to be able to earn a little more through my writing so I can devote whole days to it once my son is old enough to go to school.

Do you have any advice for new authors about the publishing world?

My advice to authors who want to write fantasy is to read loads in your subgenre and keep writing. Never give up! Get as many fantasy lovers to read it as you can before you try to publish. Also start simple and master basic concepts in shorter books before your epic 12 book masterpiece!

Do you have anything to say to your followers?

I love you all so much! Every time I gain a follower or reader, I do a little happy dance. I couldn’t do it without you!

#Preorder Make Me Lie by C.R. Jane & May Dawson

Make Me Lie: A Dark Enemies to Lovers College Romance (Rich Demons of Darkwood Book 1)

The world knows me as the Demon’s Daughter.

He’s a famous serial killer. And I may have been his accomplice.

But no one knows for sure except for me.

The dangerous, cruel men of the Sphinx secret society intend to uncover my secrets…and break me.

Stellan, my childhood crush who lost his sister to the Demon.

Cain, the boy with the face of an angel to who manipulation comes as easy as breathing;

Remington, the playboy soccer star full of secrets.

Pax, the dark psycho who hides behind his fists.

I hoped for a second chance at Darkwood University, only to have my dream ripped away the first time I kissed one of the handsome bastards.

They know who I am.

And they’re determined to make me pay.

They should have thought twice about who they were playing with.

Because I am the demon’s daughter. And just because they have the power, the connections, the faces and bodies of gods… do they really think they’ll win?

I wanted a new life, not a war.

But if they insist, we’ll see who ends up playing.